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About a hundred Algerians and Chinese migrant workers fought with knives and bludgeons in the capital Algiers, leaving three injured, witnesses said on Tuesday.

The brawl on Monday in the eastern district of Bab Ezzouar, an area known to locals as "Chinatown", was sparked by a confrontation between a shop owner and Chinese motorist.

"I told him not to park his car in front of my shop, but he insulted me," shopkeeper Abdelkrim Salouda, who was wearing a bloodstained gown, told Reuters.

"I punched him, I thought it was over, but after 30 minutes he came back with at least 50 Chinese to take revenge. It is a miracle I am still alive," said Salouda, 31, whose head was bandaged.

Thousands of Chinese migrants work in Algeria, primarily in the construction industry, and their presence is a source of resentment among some local people in the North African country, where unemployment is high.

On Tuesday, groups of Algerian residents stood outside buildings where Chinese people live.

"We can't live with them," said shop owner Rachid Azoug, who was among a group of men watching a row of Chinese shops that were boarded up.

"They drink alcohol and do not respect our religion. They must leave."

Police and gendarme paramilitary police were in the neighbourhood conducting an investigation, local residents said.

An official at the Chinese embassy in Algiers had no immediate comment. Local residents said a group of Chinese diplomats visited the scene on Monday under police escort.




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what newspaper did this come from? where is the link, last one i read like this was from a gossip non legit one


"They drink alcohol and do not respect our religion. They must leave."
like all the bottles of beer and wine on the side of the road and all the bars in algerie, are only from chinese i highly doubt that,a and like algeriens do not drink in or outside our country, and do we respect others religions? no we make rude comments to other races and religions

Thousands of Chinese migrants work in Algeria, primarily in the construction industry, and their presence is a source of resentment among some local people in the North African country, where unemployment is high.

unemplyment is high all over the world at this time, yet algeriens go outside looking for work in other countries and are welcomed, even in non islamic countries, wonder if the tables were turnt what we would think about ill treatment to foriegn workers, i say let all the other countries kick us out so their people can have the jobs first and then each stay in their own countries, no need for immagration with comments like this from this article
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the article was posted on the following website
http://www.javno.com...itnesses_273413

and the original articale has been submitted by reuters written by a certain Lamine Chikhi

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By Lamine Chikhi

ALGIERS, Aug 4 (Reuters) - About 100 Algerians and Chinese migrant workers fought with knives and bludgeons in the capital Algiers, witnesses said on Tuesday, in an unprecedented flare-up of local anger at Chinese immigration.

Planeloads of Chinese workers have been arriving in the North African oil producer, mainly to work on state-funded construction projects, and their presence has fuelled resentment in a country where 7 out of 10 adults under 30 are unemployed.

A diplomat at China's embassy in Algiers said about 10 Chinese were injured and five Chinese-owned shops were looted in the fighting on Monday in the eastern district of Bab Ezzouar, an area known to locals as "Chinatown".

Local people said a confrontation between a shop owner and a Chinese motorist led to the outbreak of fighting.

"I told him not to park his car in front of my shop, but he insulted me," shopkeeper Abdelkrim Salouda, wearing a bloodstained gown, told Reuters.

"I punched him, I thought it was over, but after 30 minutes he came back with at least 50 Chinese to take revenge. It is a miracle I am still alive," said 31-year-old Salouda.

Witnesses told Reuters about 60 Algerian residents joined the fight.

China warned its citizens in Algeria last month about possible attacks by al Qaeda's North African wing in retribution for a Chinese government crackdown in the mainly Muslim region of Xinjiang. ((For a story, click on [ID:nPEK193325]))

Some local people at the scene in Algiers said that Chinese migrants did not respect Muslim traditions. But there was no evidence of any direct link between the brawl and the clashes between Muslim Uighurs and Han Chinese in China's northwestern region of Xinjiang.



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Employers in Algeria, Africa's third-biggest economy, say Chinese workers will accept lower pay and are often better qualified than Algerians. Many big construction projects would grind to a halt without Chinese labour.

Official estimates put the number of Chinese in the Muslim former French colony at 35,000, though many local people believe the real figure is much higher. For a factbox on Chinese interests in Algeria, click on [ID:nAHM455539]

The Chinese influx mirrors a broader trend.

Academics estimate there could be about 750,000 Chinese in Africa, making them one of the continent's biggest foreign communities. Investment has flooded in from Chinese firms seeking access to Africa's mineral resources.

At the scene of the brawl, groups of Algerian residents stood outside buildings on Tuesday where Chinese people live.

"We can't live with them," said shop owner Rachid Azoug, who was among a group of men watching a row of boarded up Chinese shops. "They drink alcohol and do not respect our religion. They must leave."

Ling Jun, a diplomat at the Chinese embassy, said local authorities were investigating the fighting. "We trust the Algerian police to shed light on what happened," he said.

He said the incident would not dampen Chinese firms' enthusiasm for doing business in Algeria. "Our friendship with Algeria is strong and this event is nothing in comparison with the links between our two countries," he told Reuters.

The clashes appeared to stem from a combination of Algerians' resentment at their lack of work and cultural misunderstandings between locals and Chinese, said Nacer Jabi, who teaches sociology at Algiers University.

"In poor areas unemployment is higher, and that could explain the anger of Algerian youth towards the Chinese workers," Jabi told Reuters. (Writing by Lamine Chikhi and Christian Lowe; Editing by Tim Pearce)
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none of the two websites is algerian, I found the article in french in a website called meditteranée.. and it didn't say the wholde story, the cause wasn't mentioned and the comments below said that the article didn't mention that the algerian man wanted to show them how drink how to deal, this is not his business... it was said by an Algerian I think


anyways, the previous articles do not express my opinion

I don't know what really happened, but in case this is true I think the algerian population is becoming more and more egocentric and selfish, can't beat a man because he is not a muslim, it is not his falt if he is here because the country allowed him to be here and gave him rights
on the other hand the chinese have a bad temper usually and they don't have the reputation of being the ebst race on earth

I'll be looking for articles in algerian newspapers maybe the truth is revealed in such documents

China warned its citizens in Algeria last month about possible attacks by al Qaeda's North African wing in retribution for a Chinese government crackdown in the mainly Muslim region of Xinjiang. ((For a story, click on [ID:nPEK193325]))


this is crazy,

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and here's the algerian version of the story from echorouk online

http://www.echorouko...x.php?news=4746

De violents affrontements entre Chinois et Algériens à Bab Ezzouar
03.08.2009
Par : Leila Cherfaoui/ H. Benyahia


Le quartier « Chnaoua » a été hier le théâtre de violents affrontement entre des chinois estimés à plus de 50 personnes et les habitants de ce même quartier. Tout a commencé par une altercation entre un commerçant algérien qui vend du matériel de l’électroménager et un commerçant chinois vendeur de textiles. Suite à cette altercation, entre 50 à 60 chinois ont attaqué le vendeur algérien, du nom de famille « Azzoug », avec des sabres, des haches et des barres de fer pour venger leur compatriote chinois qui s’est vu empêché de stationner son véhicule devant les deux locaux voisins.



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Pour de plus amples renseignements sur les faits de l’incident, nous nous sommes rapproché des habitants du quartier, qui étaient au cœur des affrontements, et parmi eux « S. Khaled » le frère de la victime « S. Abdelkrim » grièvement blessé au niveau de la tête, actuellement soumis à des soins au niveau de l’hôpital Zmirli, et le commerçant « A. Rachid » propriétaire du magasin du matériel électroménager, qui a été saccagé et saboté, et le père de la victime « Abdelkrim. S », tous ont déclaré que cet incident s’est déclaré au milieu de la journée lorsque l’un des chinois avait essayé de stationner son véhicule devant l’entrée du magasin du matériel électroménager, propriété de la famille « Azzoug » ; le vendeur, un jeune algérien connu pour sa correction, lui a demandé de ne pas stationner à telle place et de la faire avancer un petit peu pour ne pas gêner l’accès au magasin. Mais, le chauffeur chinois a répondu par des propos vulgaires en arabe, où il a blasphémé la mère du commerçant algérien, ce qui a provoqué l’ire de ce dernier qui a échangé avec des propos, et c’est là que des habitants du quartier ont accouru pour séparer les deux antagonistes, avant que le chauffeur chinois ne quitte les lieux à bord de son véhicule.
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Alors que tout le monde croyait que tout était rentré dans l’ordre et que les choses allaient reprendre leurs cours, mais une demie heure après, revoilà encore le chinois de retour accompagné de 50 à 60 autres chinois furieux arborant des haches, des sabres et des barres en fer pour venger leur compatriote, ils ont saccagé le magasin et ont frappé la première personne qui se mettait sur leur chemin. Et quand un citoyens, dénommé « S. Abdelkrim » âgé de 35 ans et père de trois enfants, a essayé de comprendre ce qui se passait ils s’est vu repoussé et tombé par terre, et ils l’ont lynché, lui assenant des coups sur la tête pour lui ouvrir le crâne, et ils ont blessé son frère au niveau de l’épaule et ils ont blessé un troisième l’atteignant au niveau du dos, et c’est là que les habitants du quartier se sont mêlés pour disperser les antagonistes et aussi pour aider leurs amis, mais dés lors qu’ils ont qu’ils versaient du sang, ils étaient furieux et c’est la mêlée générale. Suite à ces dérapages, les chinois se sont mis à l’abri dans un local voisin et ont fermé la porte de peur de se faire attaquer par les habitants de Bab Ezzouar.
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Pendant que les services de sécurité étaient sur les lieux des affrontements, les chinois ont contacté l’ambassade de Chine en Algérie lui demandant d’intervenir pour les défendre. Les parents de la victime et des représentants du quartier se sont dirigés vers la mairie de Bab Ezzouar pour rencontrer le Président d’APC de cette commune, mais il n’était pas dans son bureau. Les habitants ont alors demandé au président d’APC de Bab Ezzouar d’évacuer tous les chinois résidents dans ce quartier, sous peine de les immoler et de saccager leurs maisons si jamais la mairie ne procède pas à leurs évacuation. Ils ont affirmé aussi que les chinois ne respectent pas les habitants du quartier, ils boivent de l’alcool et allument les postes radio à fond, leurs femmes mettrent des tenues provocantes, selon les témoignages recueillis auprès des habitants de Bab Ezzouar.
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Les habitants du quartier ont indiqué que cet affrontement n’est pas le premier du genre, il s’avère que cela s’est déjà produit depuis trois environ, et dans l’un de ces affrontements un chinois a été condamné à 1 année de prison ferme.



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what newspaper did this come from? where is the link, last one i read like this was from a gossip non legit one


"They drink alcohol and do not respect our religion. They must leave."
like all the bottles of beer and wine on the side of the road and all the bars in algerie, are only from chinese i highly doubt that,a and like algeriens do not drink in or outside our country, and do we respect others religions? no we make rude comments to other races and religions

Thousands of Chinese migrants work in Algeria, primarily in the construction industry, and their presence is a source of resentment among some local people in the North African country, where unemployment is high.

unemplyment is high all over the world at this time, yet algeriens go outside looking for work in other countries and are welcomed, even in non islamic countries, wonder if the tables were turnt what we would think about ill treatment to foriegn workers, i say let all the other countries kick us out so their people can have the jobs first and then each stay in their own countries, no need for immagration with comments like this from this article



I wouldn't say Algerians are 'welcomed' so much.
..And we musn't forget that Algerians too, are subject to verbal and physical abuse in certain parts of the world.
Vive L'Algérie!!

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as for us being welcomed or not, we do go to other countries, work, live and marry amongest others, many algeriens are also bad tempered, ill mannored and a non respected race in society because of many during haram activites, crimes, and drug dealings in other countries,

in san francisco where the majority of the chinese immagrants live in the usa, i have never seen this side of them onless they were threatened,

so first we get ride of the chinese, then we will say the russian contruction workers are bad, already we make racial remarks and throw rocks at the africans that are inside of algerie, we are even raciests to other algeriens in different parts of algerie as it is,

this has to stop we live in a time and day where raciesm should not be taught to our children and accepted in our homes
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I don't think this can be a process of racism, at least I wish it is not, in my area alhamdulillah we don't have any similar problems, as a matter of fact african students are well treated and they think ppl in Algeria are friendly, and ppl don't usually have problems witht he chinese, I always see them smiling and trying to communicate with others (while none of them can understand the other) yet they have a bad reputation
I think it is a matter of mind flexibility, ppl here just don't accept differences, as said in the article below it can be a cultural clash ( and stubborned mind)
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I always see them smiling and trying to communicate with others (while none of them can understand the other)...


I think this is the first problem!!!! When you put ppl together from two VERY different cultures !!! and both don't even speak a common language or even know something about eachother (except the bad prejudices of course <_< ) , then such confrontations are as good as predictable ...

"They drink alcohol and do not respect our religion. They must leave."


XD ... The first question what this man (who said this) shall think about is : WHY and HOW is alcohol available in an "islamic" country ????
If the responsable in the algerian government and their "under-people" would respect their own religion then this case (--> "drink alcohol and do not respect our religion")would never happen ... -_-
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